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No Dissociation after pH Scouting / Pre-concentration
- PJM
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2 years 6 months ago #1
by PJM
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Good morning all,
I hoped to ask your thoughts on some unusual behaviour of a new protein I have been attempting to work with on our 8K.
As you can see in the attached image I did a routine pH scouting run for three similar proteins - 1, 2 and 3. For Protein 1 we saw no interaction with the CM5 chip surface at any of the pH values tested. For Protein 3 we saw great, textbook results.
It is Protein 2 that is most curious to us - we see acceptable, pH-dependent pre-concentration at the surface but then almost no dissociation away after the injection has finished. I've always known this is a situation to avoid but on trying to read up on this in more detail all I have found comes from a Cytiva user handbook - 'At pH 4.0, the sensorgram is irregular and bound material does not dissociate from the surface at the end of the injection, indicating that the protein is aggregating or denaturing.'
I have gone ahead and amine-coupled this Protein 2 to the CM5 chip using pH 4.5 acetate anyway just out of interest - I presumed that perhaps I would still have a useable surface, just with a very low activity level. Compound binding experiments so far have been inconclusive on this however.
Protein 1 and 2 are the same protein with a pI of 5.40. They are just different batches from the same commercial supplier. Protein 3 is a related family member of Protein 1/2 with a pI of 6.30.
So I suppose my main questions are:
- Are there any further details anyone can share about this lack of dissociation after pre-concentration? How big of a problem is it likely to be for generating a useable surface?
- If the protein is being denatured so quickly by the acetate buffer - do we think alternatives (maleimide, etc.) are worth investigating?
- How likely might it be to get a covalently attached surface for Protein 2? I'd rather avoid something like His-capture with regeneration due to the cost/difficulty of obtaining this protein commercially.
Thanks in advance for any thoughts,
Patrick
I hoped to ask your thoughts on some unusual behaviour of a new protein I have been attempting to work with on our 8K.
As you can see in the attached image I did a routine pH scouting run for three similar proteins - 1, 2 and 3. For Protein 1 we saw no interaction with the CM5 chip surface at any of the pH values tested. For Protein 3 we saw great, textbook results.
It is Protein 2 that is most curious to us - we see acceptable, pH-dependent pre-concentration at the surface but then almost no dissociation away after the injection has finished. I've always known this is a situation to avoid but on trying to read up on this in more detail all I have found comes from a Cytiva user handbook - 'At pH 4.0, the sensorgram is irregular and bound material does not dissociate from the surface at the end of the injection, indicating that the protein is aggregating or denaturing.'
I have gone ahead and amine-coupled this Protein 2 to the CM5 chip using pH 4.5 acetate anyway just out of interest - I presumed that perhaps I would still have a useable surface, just with a very low activity level. Compound binding experiments so far have been inconclusive on this however.
Protein 1 and 2 are the same protein with a pI of 5.40. They are just different batches from the same commercial supplier. Protein 3 is a related family member of Protein 1/2 with a pI of 6.30.
So I suppose my main questions are:
- Are there any further details anyone can share about this lack of dissociation after pre-concentration? How big of a problem is it likely to be for generating a useable surface?
- If the protein is being denatured so quickly by the acetate buffer - do we think alternatives (maleimide, etc.) are worth investigating?
- How likely might it be to get a covalently attached surface for Protein 2? I'd rather avoid something like His-capture with regeneration due to the cost/difficulty of obtaining this protein commercially.
Thanks in advance for any thoughts,
Patrick
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2 years 6 months ago #2
by Arnoud
Replied by Arnoud on topic No Dissociation after pH Scouting / Pre-concentration
The problem with pre-concentration is the low ionic strength and the lower pH. This can for some proteins a trigger to denature or aggregate. Some proteins renature when back in a ‘normal’ buffer but you need a positive sample to validate the surface (antibody ?).
One alternative is to biotinylate the protein and use a streptavidin sensor surface or the Biotin CAPture kit. This will keep al the proteins in a physiological solution.
Kind regards
Arnoud
One alternative is to biotinylate the protein and use a streptavidin sensor surface or the Biotin CAPture kit. This will keep al the proteins in a physiological solution.
Kind regards
Arnoud
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